Continuing to follow the latest from Hong Kong flights they’re suspended for a second straight day after police and protesters clashed in Hong Kong’s International Airport and there are even more protests beyond the airport grounds medical staff at over a dozen public hospitals staged a sit-in against police brutality and despite growing calls for chief executive Kerry lamb to resign the Chinese government is not caving in saying in a statement they firmly support Lam her government and the police force author of the coming collapse of China Daily Beast colonist Gordon Chang joins us now to discuss the latest and you know Gordon we know where this initially started that the protesters were upset about an extradition bill can you just sort of talk about how this movement was born and how it has changed to this point yeah the movement was born in April when he had the first protest actually organisers were so pessimistic they didn’t even think that they would actually schedule a March but they did they got a hundred and thirty thousand people in April and so they decided to try one in June June 9th you had 1 million people on the streets a week after that two million people carry lambo has been intransigent she’s been willing to suspend consideration of the bill but not withdraw about universal suffrage for the election of the chief executive the top political officer in Hong Kong and some a minority but some are even talking about freedom from independence from China so this is an escalating situation and Beijing has been showing really very little movement on its part I mean Gordon this is a huge issue not just for China and Hong Kong but around the world senator Mitt Romney tweeting that the protests are further exposing China’s relentless campaign of repression censorship and imprisonment of millions how do you react to that well President Trump has been progressively better in his comments but he’s still a long long way from where he should be as a leader of the free world I think that he’s getting advice from people see but the problem is that there’s nothing that Trump can say which would mimic this so at this particular time I think the United States should be resolute you got a lot of protesters who are waving American flags or singing the national anthem our national anthem and we’ve got to understand that we have the power to move this in a much better direction we need to have stern words with si Jinping the Chinese ruler all right Gordon Chang thank you so much for joining us on this thank you hey NBC News viewers thanks for checking out our YouTube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down here and click on any of the videos over here to watch the latest interviews show highlights and digital exclusives thanks for watching
Thanks to at home for joining us this our very happy to have you with us happy fourth of July weekend and I don’t know if it’s the rolling out the tanks on the National Mall thing or what but for this fourth of July I have found myself a little bit stuck on a thing that we have never had before in this country that we do have now from this president it’s just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country because you’d be in jail because you’d be in jail part of the way this president ran for office was by promising that he would jail his political opponents and in response to that threat consternation was expressed by his political opponents and by the sort of commentariat but on the right among Trump supporters the reaction was basically positive I mean I think there was a thrill at first at how how transgressive that was threatening that he would put Hillary Clinton in jail threatening that all of his political opponents would be in jail but that ultimately it just became a regular thing he said it just became part of the scenery it became part of his presidency I mean it started through the campaign at his rallies it continued through the RNC right thousands of the Republican Party faithful at the Republican National Convention or even supposedly normal Republicans like New Jersey Governor Chris Christie led thousands of Republicans yelling lock her up I mean now that Trump is president they still chant lock her up or lock him up at Trump events depending on which political enemy which adversary the president is talking about at that moment and so happy fourth of July this is a thing we have never had before in our country and now as the Democratic Party tries to figure out who they’re gonna nominate to try to beat Trump and get him out of the Oval Office next year I’ve been thinking about this threat to lock up his opponents thing in part because of what’s about to happen right smack dab in the middle of the crucial first two Democratic presidential debates of the campaign the first Democratic primary debate was last week second one is at the end of this month another two-day debate over the last two days in July and at the halfway point between those first two debates Robert Mahler is going to testify publicly before Congress about his investigation his investigation into Russia interfering in our election to
help Trump win the investigation into the Trump campaigns involvement or complicity in that and the findings detailed in mulish report about president Trump’s efforts to obstruct those inquiries and to obstruct justice that’s going to be July 17th talk about the event of the summer and I think we can expect Robert Miller’s testimony and his report won’t just provide material for the Democratic candidates to talk about in their next debate at the end of July I think this may also just be instructive in terms of what the eventual Democratic nominee is going to be up against when he or she goes up against Donald Trump one-on-one because there is no reason to think that this lock her up lock him up thing from Donald Trump and his supporters there’s no reason to think that this is a passing fancy and honestly we now know it’s not just a slogan I mean as much as it is tempting to look at the lock her up chance and and the constant tweets from the president about Hillary Clinton’s supposed in crimes I mean that’s literally how he announced his reelection campaign railing at a rally against Hillary Clinton for her supposed crimes and so that’s why he’s running for re-election in 2020 I mean if you were someone who was inclined to dismiss all that as Donald Trump you know letting off steam or trolling people or riling up the base well one of the things that ended up getting documented extensively in molars report is that this stuff hasn’t just been stuffed Donald Trump has been saying for effect in fact once he became president Trump indeed tried to get to the US Justice Department to go after his political enemies the president calling the Attorney General at home to tell him to quote direct the Department of Justice to
investigate and prosecute Hillary Clinton the president meeting privately with the Attorney General and telling him quote that the Justice Department was not investigating individuals and events the president thought the department should be investigating like Hillary Clinton’s emails the president pulling the Attorney General aside in the Oval Office right after Trump national security adviser Mike Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI the president again telling the Attorney General he needed to open an investigation of Hillary Clinton president telling the Attorney General quote you’d be a hero this wasn’t just stuff he said for effect Trump in multiple instances documented by Muller in his report Trump wanted his Justice Department to investigate and prosecute Hillary Clinton and he repeatedly told them to do it and he repeatedly expressed frustration and anger when that didn’t happen because he expected it to happen and and we know why he was frustrated too because as the Moller report makes clear President Trump viewed the Attorney General and the Justice Department as his own lawyers as his own personal law enforcement apparatus confronted with obstacles to that goal like rules prohibiting him from talking to the Attorney General about specific investigations confronted with the Attorney General jeff Sessions being recused from anything related to the 2016 campaign the Moller report says the president complained to his aides about those barriers to what he wanted to do by saying quote I don’t have a lawyer meaning that he wanted the Attorney General to function as his own lawyer quote the president then brought up attorneys General Robert Kennedy and Eric Holder and said that they had protected their presidents the
president also pushed back on Justice Department cotton on the Justice Department contacts policy and said words to the effect of you’re telling me that Bobby and Jack didn’t talk about investigations or Obama didn’t tell Eric Holder who to investigate Steve Bannon recalled that the president was as mad as Bannon had ever seen him and that he screamed about how weak Jeff sessions was quote sessions recalled that the president pulled him aside to speak to him alone and suggested that sessions should Unruh cues from the Russia investigation the president contrasted sessions with attorneys General Holder and Kennedy who he said had developed a strategy to help their presidents where sessions had not quote according to notes written by sessions as chief of staff Jody hunt the president said quote the Attorney General is supposed to be the most important appointment Kennedy appointed his brother Obama appointed Holder I appointed you and you refused yourself you left me on an island I can’t do anything I mean in a nutshell this is what the entire obstruction section of Muller’s report boils down to right in volume 1 we get the plot about Russia attacking our election to help Trump win we get the evidence that the Trump campaign welcome to Russia has helped in that election the FBI opening an investigation into the Russia attack including the question of whether there was any coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign then in volume 2 it’s the other plot it’s the plot of Trump as president right once Trump became president him doing everything he could to try to stymie the investigation into what Russia did and the involvement is of his campaign in it including repeatedly trying to get his attorney general not to just stop the investigation but to redirect Justice Department attentions away from Trump and toward Trump’s political enemies I mean the president’s campaign chairman was literally perp-walked to the start of his next trial on the day of the first democratic debate the president’s deputy campaign chair and his national security adviser are currently convicted and awaiting federal sentencing his longtime personal lawyer is in prison already for among other things crimes that prosecutors say the president directed him to commit and it is a fascinating thing in itself that the various
Democratic candidates are not making that a central part of their competition for the Democratic nomination to run against him but whether or not they’re making an issue an issue the president is running on this stuff the president is making this an issue in his campaign not just because of the fact that he’s the subject of all of this scandal and controversy he’s trying to run specifically on what’s happened in the wake of the Russia scandal by trying to turn it inside-out to try to turn it to his own advantage I mean the the loudest complaint of the pro-trump conservative media machine now and for the past two years Donald Trump’s loudest complaints since becoming president a complaint he continues to lodge on Twitter most days even now is that the Russia investigation wasn’t real and the Russia investigation was a coup against him and the real Russia scandal isn’t being investigated by which he means specifically that he didn’t have the kind of attorney general who would investigate the people he wanted investigated he didn’t have an attorney general who would turn the power of the Justice Department against his political enemies and of course against the people who investigated Donald Trump and what it was that Russia did to help him he didn’t have that with Jeff Sessions as Attorney General but now the president says he does happen he does have that and that’s what he wanted all along which is what he was promising those Brayan crowds since the campaign I would say if I had one do-over it would be I would not have appointed Jeff Sessions to be Attorney General that would be my one that in your mind yeah that was the the big bill Barger Roy Cohn he should have never I think he’s a very talented version I’m a mother you’ve always said I was my Roy column is that your Roy Co no bar is a very equally tough he’s a fine man he’s a fine man the job he’s done is incredible he loves the Department of Justice he saw what was happening he has done a spectacular job now he’s in the process of doing something and I stay away from it I really I stay away from it but I think he feels that’s what’s happened in this country was a very bad thing and very bad for a country bill Barr he saw what was happening in the Justice Department he feels it was a very bad thing for our country and now he’s in the process of doing something about it what was the thing happening in the Justice Department that was so bad for our country I mean if Trump’s two qualifications for a good Attorney General are one protect the
president and to go after the president’s enemies well certainly we have seen Attorney General Bill Barre do a bang-up job on number one right absolving the president of obstruction of justice immediately upon receiving the special counsels report which absolutely did not absolve the president of obstruction of justice keeping that actual report under wraps for weeks while he publicly described its contents in a way that did not reflect its real content for weeks he selectively quoted from it to paint a picture of it as an exoneration of the president which is not what it was so part one protecting the president bang-up job bill Barlow has also been getting to work on part two launching the kinds of investigations that Trump has wanted for so long the kind that are promised on the idea that maybe the investigators of Russia’s interference in our election those investigators are the real bad guys because why should that have ever been looked into in the first place news just broke today that you have a special team looking into why the FBI open an investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 elections I wonder if you couldn’t share with this committee who’s on that team why you felt a need to form that kind of a team and what you intend to be the scope of their investigation yeah I as I said in my confirmation hearing I am gonna be reviewing both the genesis and the conduct of intelligence activities directed again at the the Trump campaign during 2016 I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal it’s a big deal so you’re not you’re not suggesting though that spine occurred I don’t well I guess you could I think there was a spying did occur yes I think spying did occur Oh finally finally an attorney general who’s giving Donald Trump some material he can work with you could feel the Glee and the president’s Twitter feed in the days and weeks following that testimony from William Barr you know all caps they spied on my campaign my campaign from was conclusively spied on nothing like this has ever happened in American politics treason treason exclamation point month after finally allowing a
redacted version of the mullah report to become public Trump’s newly installed Attorney General Bill Barr assigned the US Attorney in Connecticut man named John Durham to in fact investigate the origins of the Russia investigation to investigate the investigation Barre began giving soft-focus casual in front of a roaring fireplace interviews describing his concerns that people in law enforcement intelligence might have been out to get the Trump campaign and that’s the only reason anybody looked into what Russia was doing and then President Trump announced that he was handing Bill Barr the authority to declassify any information he wants to about the origins of the Russia investigation he can go through all of the intelligence community’s files and he can release anything he wants which I’m sure will be totally fine because it’s not like bill bars known for selectively releasing information from investigations to make President Trump look good and as the contours of bars investigation have started to come into focus over the past month it looks like he is training his sights on the central underlying premise of the entire Russia scandal and the entire Muller investigation that Russia and Putin attacked the 2016 election to help Trump win the Oval Office and that the the reason that needs to be investigated is because you know the FBI and the intelligence community recognizing that and investigating that while it was happening was somehow the wrong thing to do they should have just let that go from the New York Times quote mr.
Barr has been interested in how the CIA drew its conclusions about Russia’s election sabotage particularly the judgment that mr. Putin ordered that operatives help mr. Trump by discrediting his opponent Hillary Clinton according to current and former American officials quote mr. Barr wants to know more about the CIA sources who helped inform its understanding of the details of the Russian interference campaign and this headline for The Wall Street Journal quote William VAR looking into u.s. finding that Russia wanted Trump to win intelligence officials express concern that Attorney General will challenge 2017 assessment quote mister bars review of US intelligence gathering we’ll look in particular at whether there were disagreements among intelligence analysts who produce the findings the review is also likely to look into whether the findings were motivated by political opposition to mr. Trump quote US intelligence officials have privately expressed concern that the
Justice Department plans to read team or challenge the finding of Russian interference on Trump’s behalf from CBS News quote a mix of concern confusion and defiance has spread through elements of the intelligence community in particular current and former intelligence officials are questioning the purpose and propriety of scrutinizing the analytical judgments that led a group of agencies to conclude that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign to boost candidate Trump’s electability according to former CIA deputy director Michael Morell quote any analyst asked to submit to an interview with Durham’s investigators will want to have their own personal attorney at their side imagine that needing an attorney to explain an analytic judgment conducted while you are working for US intelligence agency well this will be watched closely inside the intelligence community and the prospect that Justice Department prosecutors may ask questions about how an analyst came to a conclusion could well lead analysts to damar so in other words if you’re a US intelligence analyst and you are looking at evidence of foreign interference in an American election foreign interference in American democracy and your analysis is bringing you to the conclusion that a foreign power is trying to insert a certain candidate into the White House to serve the purposes of that foreign power are you sure you want to put that down in writing because that candidate might become president and send the Justice Department to interrogate you might send Justice Department prosecutors after you because the president doesn’t like the way your intelligence analysis made him look or more immediately if you’re an intelligence analyst and you find yourself coming to the conclusion that a foreign power is currently helping the sitting president maybe you ought to think twice about what you’re gonna do with that conclusion to where you might put that conclusion who you might tell about it what you might say about it or do you instead just let it ride right nice little intelligence community you got there shame if anything were to happen to it so yes president Trump now says he finally has the Attorney General he always wanted just as the 2020 campaign gets fully underway lock her up lock her up and as Muller prepares to testify about
his investigation for the first time right between the two Democratic debates but there’s one other element at play here one other factor that Trump in his Attorney General don’t control and that is that people who were in some of this country’s key intelligence and key law enforcement positions during the 2016 campaign when the investigation was launched into the Russian attack on the election and the Trump campaigns possible complicity in it those human beings are alive and well and capable despite all the threats and intimidation they are capable of speaking out publicly about what they in fact saw and what they did and what they analyzed as its importance why that investigation was both in both important and proper why that investigation in other words still needs to be protected many of those people have been driven out of their jobs publicly attacked by the President and his supporters and particularly by conservative media put under investigation themselves one of those top officials who oversaw the counterintelligence investigation into Russia and the Trump campaign has only recently begun telling his story our interview with him is just ahead and stay with us hey there I’m Chris Hayes from MSNBC thanks for watching MSNBC on YouTube if you want to keep up to date with the videos we’re putting out you can click subscribe just below me or click over on this list to see lots of other great videos
earthquake has hit California just one day after another earthquake which is now being described as a four shot and dozens of aftershocks the latest earthquake reportedly originated in the same desert area of California between Los Angeles and Las Vegas and could be felt as far away as as Las Vegas it was just yesterday that a rolling magnitude earthquake hit which was the most powerful quake in that region in two decades you can see chandeliers swaying this is in Los Angeles the epicenter was in a place called Ridge crust it was felt again as far away as Las Vegas and depending on who you talk to and where they were they experienced things very very differently in rich crust which is the epicenter it’s described as a violent shaking and people are describing being terrified people in tears there was a fireball which had been a home everybody did get out safely that was confirmed by NBC News’s Molly hunter and in places like Las Vegas where and in Los Angeles where you’re seeing right now it’s being described more as like a sea sickness like a motion sickness a feeling of vertigo and people didn’t feel necessarily panicked there but it was has definitely been a series of episodes one of the people that we want to talk to is our own NBC news anchor Lester Holt who is on the phone he was in Santa Monica California in a movie theater which I can’t imagine being in a more scary place when something like that hit Lester hello thank you for being with with us and and just take us through it please well you know we’ve all been highly sensitized since the quake yesterday that and you know the expectation that there might be further aftershocks we would feel here in the Los Angeles area that was on my mind but if the theater is sitting there and suddenly it began and there was no you know trying to second-guess what it might be immediately I understood it was the earthquake my wife and I look at each other earthquake and I don’t know she said I said there’s some things that were fine if we were at that moment and then it seemed to intensify and that’s the point I think that it became more concerning and we and the mother folks got up made our way to an exit went several flight and answered on the street level we didn’t quite know what to expect what we got out there the intensity of it made me think that we might encounter damage there was a no panic one woman however was you know sobbing and any be consoled by her husband as they made their way out of the theater and now we’re all going to gathered around television was watching watching the coverage here the news conferences and try to get a handle on this thing as to as to whether it’s over I think what’s alarming for a lot of people in Los Angeles is what if what if that epicenter was closer to LA this quake is bigger than the deadly Northridge quake here back in the 90s it’s a larger magnitude also than the Loma Prieta quake the World Series quake in the San Francisco Bay Area back in the 80s so a great deal of concern as to what would happen if an epicenter of a quake of that magnitude were to be closer to Los Angeles you can certainly understand that the conversation about are we prepared is ramping up after this weekend Lester Holt thank you so much and I’m so glad that you are safe let’s go to Molly hunter with NBC News who is in Ridgecrest which is the epicenter of this whole a series of episodes and Molly from what you’ve describing it been describing it is a much different situation where you are which is the epicenter as compared to people who are in LA and Las Vegas and even just a few miles away from where you are that’s exactly right I’ve never experienced anything like this I also was born and raised in California and I was in Los Angeles for that on Thursday I felt the this morning around a.m.
And nothing compared to that so our hotel is actually just over here I’m just gonna have quart pan over just so you can see the complete darkness we’re totally out of power but we were sound asleep in our hotels and I can’t describe to you waking up to that kind of violent shaking I looked up and the room literally felt like it was on hinges just going back and forth the entire curtains came down and it was incredibly terrifying I’m not sure I’ve experienced something like that and we immediately got out of bed look I was on the first floor our care guy in our sound guy court and Brian were up on the third floor Brian was knocked out of bed my producer angie was on the second floor all of her things were also knocked completely off the desk furniture messed around we all ran out of the hotel and then we went over to see that house fire which you just described that fireball we do know that everyone got out safely but we are at the hospital right now there’s an emergency command center lots of emergency vehicles up here and as far as at least the emergency services are concerned everything is working as planned and as prepared they’re incredibly ready for this and we’re just gonna have to wait and see what the fall it is after that they have you we’ve all been seeing pictures of these emergency crews that you have described have you witnessed them going searching structures and and taking a look at the roads I know it’s dark so I can’t imagine how they’re even accomplishing all of this that they need to do but have you seen that we saw it earlier today because after the five point for everyone who’s pretty freaked out and officials said they were gonna have to go out and actually look at some of these bigger buildings to see if there was foundation damage or structural damage that wasn’t apparent to the naked eye look some of these smaller structures like mobile homes we can see if they’re off its foundation but the worry is that something like this the hospital that there’s internal foundation damage and so they had actually evacuated patients on Thursday out of an abundance of caution because they were nervous there might be some structural damage but look at this hour we haven’t seen any necessarily emergency vehicles going toward a door it’s too dark and too early right very long hard job ahead of the Mullin hunter thank you so much we will have continuing coverage of this earthquake on MSNBC and this NBC NBC station I am Melissa ray Berger NBC News New York hey NBC News viewers thanks for checking out our YouTube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down here and click on any of the videos over here to watch the latest interviews show highlights and digital exclusives thanks for watching
Hi everybody good morning nice to have you with us on a Friday morning Craig’s here while HOTAS enjoying time with the babies yeah just a Friday Good Friday a lot of folks have holiday travel plans the weather could impact those plans we’ll get to that in just a moment but first they’re the top story on this Friday morning wide-ranging reactions to the release of that mullah room that’s right it’s finally here it’s public Washington and the rest of the nation still processing everything contained in this two volumes 448 pages as we know the special counsel did not find sufficient evidence of collusion or conspiracy between the Trump team and Russia the report does give Democrats some ammunition on the issue of obstruction and now we understand why Moeller did not make a prosecutorial decision on that we’ve got complete coverage on what it all means we’ll start with NBC’s White House correspondent Peter Alexander Peter good morning to you Savannah good morning to you overnight the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in a letter to Democratic lawmakers vowed after fully reviewing the Moller report in her words Congress will not be silent effectively previewing the possibility of further action she says to protect our democracy it comes as the president and his allies tout vindication but that 448 page document is filled with evidence of repeated lying by administration officials the president ordering aides to lie for him and his efforts to shut down or stifle the investigation president Trump reviving in Florida trying to turn the page following the release of Robert molars redacted report while Muller stops short of accusing the president of criminal wrongdoing Democrats are seizing on the unflattering portrait he paints of president Trump’s conduct the facts that are now established by this report are damning whether they could or should have resulted in the indictment of the president or people around him they are damning Muller reveals the president’s reaction in the Oval Office nearly two years ago when he first learned about the appointment of a special counsel writing based on notes from an official in the room that he slumped back in his chair and said oh my god this is terrible this is the end of my presidency I’m effed the reports most damaging details on obstruction of justice and the president’s repeated efforts to sabotage the Russia inquiry often through White House aides but Muller names at least 10 current and former administration officials or associates who defied the president’s orders among them White House cancelled don McGann who resisted the president’s ordered to remove Bowler deciding he would rather resign than participate in another Saturday night massacre according to the report President Trump also asked his former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to tell then Attorney General Jeff sessions to publicly announce the investigation was unfair to the president Lewandowski never delivered that message Muller’s bottom line quote if we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice we would so state president Trump pushing back on Twitter I had the right to end the whole witch-hunt if I wanted I could have fired everyone including Moeller if I wanted I chose not to the report also outlines a sweeping and systemic effort by Russia to promote mr.
Trump’s candidacy laying out numerous contacts between Trump campaign associates and Russians before and after the election but Muller found insufficient evidence to prove the President or any other American conspired or coordinated with Russia in 2016 a conclusion emphasized by Attorney General you bar that is something that all Americans can and should be grateful to have confirmed Democrats argue that Attorney General bar mischaracterized the molar report effectively framing it in the president’s favor and this morning President Trump’s personal lawyers are trying to move on from the Russia investigation strongly indicating they will not release that long-promised counter report suggesting at this point it’s not needed Savannah Drake Peter Alexander at the White House thank you all right let’s uh let’s try and break down some more the top takeaways from this report and for that we turn to NBC justice correspondent Pete Williams who was among the first to see it and read it to us live on television yesterday Pete thank you so much for being with us let’s talk about this conclusion confusion if you will sir a lot of folks at home this morning might be wondering how could it be after two years that Robert Muller was unable to find some sort of connection some sort of obstruction connection or at least conclude that it was a crime what the report says that Muller’s team felt that the evidence was strong enough that they couldn’t let him off the hook and say conclusively that he didn’t commit a crime but the report also says because a long-standing Justice Department policy says a president can’t be indicted the team concluded they couldn’t even reach the point of deciding whether the evidence showed he committed a crime so the report in essence says they walked right up to that door and stopped and by the way the report rejects the claim by mr.
Trump’s lawyers that a president can’t even commit obstruction of justice because as the head of the executive branch he had the authority to tell federal employees what to do I think one of the reasons this was so confusing besides the fact that it’s a 400-page report everyone’s trying to read live on television but Pete as we now know Muller says as you just explained I’m not even going to decide whether this could be indicted because I can’t under the rules I’m just a prosecutor and the rules say you can’t indict a sitting president but it seems to me that the Attorney General William bar sets something a little different in that news conference before about why Miller decided not to make that judgment right the the Attorney General said in that news conference and implied this in letter that he sent in March that Muller told him in early March that he wasn’t going to reach this conclusion and that the reason was that the evidence was ambiguous that it pointed in both directions and that that’s the reason the report failed to reach a conclusion about obstruction what Barr said is that the finding was not based on the policy about not indicted a president so we’ll probably have to wait for Robert Muller to testify before Congress to get that answer and by the way mr.
Barr said yesterday he would have no objection to Muller testifying Pete Williams forced there in Washington thank you could stick into what happens next we have NBC’s white house correspondent Kristen Welker here also NBC News contributor Neal Katyal who is the former acting Solicitor General a Supreme Court lawyer good morning to both of you and let’s start right there because what exactly is the significance of robert muller saying i couldn’t even get to the point of deciding whether or not all this conduct which he lays out amounts to the crime of obstruction because the rules forbid me from doing so it’s huge Savannah so basically you know it’s not that sounds technically legal but it’s it’s actually really simple to break it down there are two ground rules that Muller says on pages 1 & 2 of his report and Barr didn’t tell us about either of them and that’s why I think there was so much confusion yesterday one is if I got so much evidence against the president that he’s guilty as sin I’m not gonna tell you and number two he says if I have no evidence against the president if the president is totally in the clear I am gonna tell you and Muller then writes this four hundred page report to say I don’t have enough evidence to clear the president and so the significance of this is you know Trump’s lawyers were saying oh best day of the presidency and so on that tells you more I think about the Trump presidency than anything else what it what the Muller report says is basically tees it up for Congress to investigate we heard Pelosi saying that’s what she’s going to do and then there’s this footnote in the opinion footnote 109 one which in which Muller says look even apart from a peach mint we could go after the president after he leaves office so a sitting president can’t be indicted but an ex-president can go to jail I just what a long time ago everything interesting is in the footnotes and then true that molars basically saying once he leaves office it’s fair game if the prosecutors want a prosecutor who tweeted that footnote yesterday I got a lot of attention online Kristen we just heard that Bob the Robert Barr Bob Barr would be fine with robert muller testifying likelihood that that happens and with the white house be okay with with Robert law and testifying before Congress as Democrats abassin so that’s a great question I put that question to one of the presidents top advisors Kellyanne Conway yesterday she ultimately got to the point of saying look we wouldn’t stop that from happening are they gonna be cheerleading for that every day I wouldn’t expect that but look this is about transparency and it’s also about having Democrats I think be able to take that next step because you have the democratic base Craig and Savannah’s saying look now we need to impeach and in talking to officials overnight they’re saying we’re not gonna take that step yet the next step really has to be talking to Muller and making sure that we see the full unredacted report well I mean Democrats have to determine for themselves whether how far they want to go with this and and whether they want to continue to investigate do you read the report as Muller saying explicitly or implicitly that this is a matter for Congress because he is forbade by these rules from doing anything in the Justice Department it’s definitely implicit and I think Muller was following the path of his predecessors the special prosecutor in Watergate Leon Jaworski the prosecute independent prosecutor for Monica Lewinsky Ken Starr both of them wrote reports to Congress in which they didn’t expressly say impeach or not they just laid out the evidence even when the evidence was so damning with Nixon and the evidence yesterday was quite damning against the president but they’re leaving it up to Congress to decide Kristen what do we know about how much voters actually care about all of this well I’m clearly following all of us how much is all of this going to to impact their votes in a year now and that is going to be the million-dollar question and that’s what we’re gonna find out on Election Day I think if you are the president and his allies and his legal team and this is why they’re not releasing the counter report they want to turn the page and they want to keep the focus on the bottom line that extraordinary news conference yesterday from the Attorney General where he came out and basically set the narrative for the administration you know really quickly on that I mean you obviously are a practicing lawyer you’ve you know worked as part of the Justice Department was that unusual because you know the Attorney General although appointed by the president is supposed to be an independent legal officer and a lot of people were struck by the tenor of his of his comments when discussing the evidence in a way that was very favorable report yeah exactly so as a defense attorney it’s not unusual at all I do that often trickle information out to protect my clients and a pin measured pace as the Attorney General of the United States absolutely he didn’t look like the Attorney General United States you look like the Attorney General for Donald Trump we will let’s see how this all plays out Neil cut y’all thank you for being here Kristin as always we’ll see our nightly tonight another big story this morning the weather the South dealing with damaging storms overnight and as we head into the holiday weekend tens of millions are facing more rough weather today we’ll get to Dylan’s forecast in just a moment but we start with Gabe Gutierrez who is standing by for us there in Atlanta Gabe what’s the scene Greg good morning there have been tornado warnings issued for parts of metro Atlanta earlier today right now we are still getting hit by rain and it is a soggy morning commute across the south there have been reports of at least two deaths so far tornado sirens here going off overnight that dangerous storm system sliced through the south toppling trees in Alabama after shredding parts of Mississippi this is a new circulation that’s popping up here one of the hardest hit areas the small town of Mortain a twister tearing through neighborhoods ripping off roofs and leveling homes there is a loud noise and then the house starts shaking and it was horrible I thought I was gonna die Michelle Salinas still in disbelief when I looked through the window I saw the trees everywhere it destroyed my car part of my house I’m just shocked despite the destruction no lives were lost there northeast of Morton torrential rain inundating roads forcing some residents to escape by boat and in Clinton just outside of Jackson the state capital powerful winds flipping cars and knocking out power in Arkansas flash flooding shutting down i30 some drivers had to be rescued all part of a fast-moving line of storms that had already slammed into Louisiana Oklahoma in Texas in Austin a home security camera capturing the moment lightning split a tree in half sending parts of it airborne landing inside this home the lights flickered in the house and a couple things fell off the walls I came out and saw the tree I’ve been split from the National Weather Service says there have been reports at least 10 possible tornadoes over the last 24 hours tens of thousands of people are without power there were deaths in Mississippi and Alabama as we just said we’re still getting rain here in Atlanta and air travel delays are expected up the East Coast as we head into this holiday weekend Craig and Savannah if there are delays at hartsfield-jackson there are de likely delays over the country thank you yeah good point Dylan’s in for al she’s tracking the storm threat today and the holiday weekend Dylan good morning what you got good morning well the heavy rain is moving through Atlanta right now we just south of Atlanta also have tornado watches in effect for another couple of hours heavy rain is continuing to slowly move to the east and within these storms we could see some very gusty winds some small hail possible and as we go into this afternoon that threat is going to increase even more especially across Virginia into North and South Carolina it’s been about three years since we’ve had a forecast like this for the Carolinas for winds in excess of six 70 miles per hour long track tornadoes meaning once they develop they could stay on the ground for an extended period of time we’re not looking at a huge risk of hail but torrential downpours are certainly a possibility and that could lead to some flash flooding so this storm is slowly going to move east a lot of these storms across Virginia in the Carolina is not really moving in until this afternoon in the Northeast those storms not really moving in until late tonight and in New England those storms not really moving in until early tomorrow morning then this whole storm system will continue to slowly clear out as we go into late morning on Saturday across New England and then we’re all seeing sunshine by Saturday afternoon as for the rain I’d say a widespread to two inches but we could see some areas picking up about three to four inches because of the tropical nature of these downpours and that’s why we do have 48 million people under some sort of flash flood watch because of the potential for that flooding guys all right then we’ll come back in just a moment we’ve got a lot more to get to on this Friday morning including the latest on the fire at Notre Dame Cathedral investigators in Paris now think that they have pinpointed the most likely cause nbc’s kelly cobiella has the latest developments Kelly good morning good morning to you correct yep the forensics teams are finally able to get access inside the Cathedral to really search for that evidence they’ve spoken to some 40 construction crews and Cathedral staff at this point trying to really pinpoint the exact source of that blaze this morning no trade-ins grande stone floors are still covered in charred debris from its collapsed roof and spire but it’s safe enough inside to rescue the cathedrals remaining artwork the fire that nearly brought down the entire building likely caused by an electrical short-circuit according to an Associated Press source investigators are still looking for the exact cause of the blaze the 850 year-old structure is unstable walls supported by wooden planks we look here for instance we’ve got this now freestanding gable wall there will have been some heat effect on the inside face of it which will have likely had an effect on the stability of the stonework itself Architects like Francis Maude who helped rebuild Windsor Castle after a devastating fire there in 1992 could help guide the reconstruction of Notre Dame at Windsor a hundred rooms were damaged or destroyed several roofs collapsed but the castle was saved in five years at a cost of about 55 million dollars we had a set of problems a set of challenges to restore that ceiling and roof structure which perhaps are going to be comparable to some of the challenges that we’ll face the people looking to restore not four diamond in in the roof there this morning more than a billion dollars has been pledged to rebuild Notre Dame the firefighters who saved it from total ruin honored as national heroes Thursday in a day-long tribute some experts have suggested it could take 15 years to rebuild notre-dame Cathedral president micron wants it done in five what else happens in five years guys Paris is hosting the 2024 Olympics that’s right jelly Kobe hey there and London telly thank you yeah let’s bring Dylan back in for the rest of the forecast morning good morning again yes the trouble spots will be up and down the East Coast but in the middle of the country look at that lots of sunshine temperatures in the 60s and 70s not too bad the west coast looking good except for Washington we will see a lot of clouds and some scattered showers up that way you
A lot of questions as to how this plane carrying 11 people could have crashed before even clearing this airfield witnesses say the plane was taking off this way when somehow it turned upside down crashing right into the ground here as NTSB investigators now gather to start combing through the debris on the North Shore of Oahu the deadliest civilian plane crash in Hawaii in nearly 30 years and now staggering heartache Galen Rick Severson were two of the first to rush to the crash site when a skydiving plane plummeted to the ground just after takeoff Friday I’d never forget the sound of the crash as fast as we could but there’s nothing the impact and fire so powerful most of the aircraft was incinerated and some family members of the victims watched helplessly nearby among those who perished Casey Williamson a videographer who moved to Honolulu to pursue a life of skydiving instructor Larry Lemaster he leaves behind a young son and 36 year-old Daniel Herndon also an instructor with more than 4,000 jumps family members saying they died doing what they loved now as the NTSB begins its investigation there are new questions about whether this plane was fit to fly the NTSB planning to review this disturbing video coming to light appearing to show the same plane nearly crashing during another skydiving jump in 2016 the video posted to YouTube revealing panic inside the aircraft as it started to spin uncontrollably over California then a scramble to jump out while pieces of a wing fell out of the sky the pilot landing safely but the plane heavily damaged the FAA blaming pilot error for failure to maintain airspeed well look at the repairs that were made on the aircraft and inspections to make sure that it was air worthy before it was able to begin operations again apart from those repairs the NTSB says are going to be looking into other factors like actions of the pilot weather conditions as well as the plane’s weight before it took off hey NBC News fans thanks for checking out our youtube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down here and click on any of the videos over here to watch the latest interviews show highlights and digital exclusives thanks for watching