Continuing to follow the latest from Hong Kong flights they’re suspended for a second straight day after police and protesters clashed in Hong Kong’s International Airport and there are even more protests beyond the airport grounds medical staff at over a dozen public hospitals staged a sit-in against police brutality and despite growing calls for chief executive Kerry lamb to resign the Chinese government is not caving in saying in a statement they firmly support Lam her government and the police force author of the coming collapse of China Daily Beast colonist Gordon Chang joins us now to discuss the latest and you know Gordon we know where this initially started that the protesters were upset about an extradition bill can you just sort of talk about how this movement was born and how it has changed to this point yeah the movement was born in April when he had the first protest actually organisers were so pessimistic they didn’t even think that they would actually schedule a March but they did they got a hundred and thirty thousand people in April and so they decided to try one in June June 9th you had 1 million people on the streets a week after that two million people carry lambo has been intransigent she’s been willing to suspend consideration of the bill but not withdraw about universal suffrage for the election of the chief executive the top political officer in Hong Kong and some a minority but some are even talking about freedom from independence from China so this is an escalating situation and Beijing has been showing really very little movement on its part I mean Gordon this is a huge issue not just for China and Hong Kong but around the world senator Mitt Romney tweeting that the protests are further exposing China’s relentless campaign of repression censorship and imprisonment of millions how do you react to that well President Trump has been progressively better in his comments but he’s still a long long way from where he should be as a leader of the free world I think that he’s getting advice from people see but the problem is that there’s nothing that Trump can say which would mimic this so at this particular time I think the United States should be resolute you got a lot of protesters who are waving American flags or singing the national anthem our national anthem and we’ve got to understand that we have the power to move this in a much better direction we need to have stern words with si Jinping the Chinese ruler all right Gordon Chang thank you so much for joining us on this thank you hey NBC News viewers thanks for checking out our YouTube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down here and click on any of the videos over here to watch the latest interviews show highlights and digital exclusives thanks for watching
Thanks to at home for joining us this our very happy to have you with us happy fourth of July weekend and I don’t know if it’s the rolling out the tanks on the National Mall thing or what but for this fourth of July I have found myself a little bit stuck on a thing that we have never had before in this country that we do have now from this president it’s just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country because you’d be in jail because you’d be in jail part of the way this president ran for office was by promising that he would jail his political opponents and in response to that threat consternation was expressed by his political opponents and by the sort of commentariat but on the right among Trump supporters the reaction was basically positive I mean I think there was a thrill at first at how how transgressive that was threatening that he would put Hillary Clinton in jail threatening that all of his political opponents would be in jail but that ultimately it just became a regular thing he said it just became part of the scenery it became part of his presidency I mean it started through the campaign at his rallies it continued through the RNC right thousands of the Republican Party faithful at the Republican National Convention or even supposedly normal Republicans like New Jersey Governor Chris Christie led thousands of Republicans yelling lock her up I mean now that Trump is president they still chant lock her up or lock him up at Trump events depending on which political enemy which adversary the president is talking about at that moment and so happy fourth of July this is a thing we have never had before in our country and now as the Democratic Party tries to figure out who they’re gonna nominate to try to beat Trump and get him out of the Oval Office next year I’ve been thinking about this threat to lock up his opponents thing in part because of what’s about to happen right smack dab in the middle of the crucial first two Democratic presidential debates of the campaign the first Democratic primary debate was last week second one is at the end of this month another two-day debate over the last two days in July and at the halfway point between those first two debates Robert Mahler is going to testify publicly before Congress about his investigation his investigation into Russia interfering in our election to
help Trump win the investigation into the Trump campaigns involvement or complicity in that and the findings detailed in mulish report about president Trump’s efforts to obstruct those inquiries and to obstruct justice that’s going to be July 17th talk about the event of the summer and I think we can expect Robert Miller’s testimony and his report won’t just provide material for the Democratic candidates to talk about in their next debate at the end of July I think this may also just be instructive in terms of what the eventual Democratic nominee is going to be up against when he or she goes up against Donald Trump one-on-one because there is no reason to think that this lock her up lock him up thing from Donald Trump and his supporters there’s no reason to think that this is a passing fancy and honestly we now know it’s not just a slogan I mean as much as it is tempting to look at the lock her up chance and and the constant tweets from the president about Hillary Clinton’s supposed in crimes I mean that’s literally how he announced his reelection campaign railing at a rally against Hillary Clinton for her supposed crimes and so that’s why he’s running for re-election in 2020 I mean if you were someone who was inclined to dismiss all that as Donald Trump you know letting off steam or trolling people or riling up the base well one of the things that ended up getting documented extensively in molars report is that this stuff hasn’t just been stuffed Donald Trump has been saying for effect in fact once he became president Trump indeed tried to get to the US Justice Department to go after his political enemies the president calling the Attorney General at home to tell him to quote direct the Department of Justice to
investigate and prosecute Hillary Clinton the president meeting privately with the Attorney General and telling him quote that the Justice Department was not investigating individuals and events the president thought the department should be investigating like Hillary Clinton’s emails the president pulling the Attorney General aside in the Oval Office right after Trump national security adviser Mike Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI the president again telling the Attorney General he needed to open an investigation of Hillary Clinton president telling the Attorney General quote you’d be a hero this wasn’t just stuff he said for effect Trump in multiple instances documented by Muller in his report Trump wanted his Justice Department to investigate and prosecute Hillary Clinton and he repeatedly told them to do it and he repeatedly expressed frustration and anger when that didn’t happen because he expected it to happen and and we know why he was frustrated too because as the Moller report makes clear President Trump viewed the Attorney General and the Justice Department as his own lawyers as his own personal law enforcement apparatus confronted with obstacles to that goal like rules prohibiting him from talking to the Attorney General about specific investigations confronted with the Attorney General jeff Sessions being recused from anything related to the 2016 campaign the Moller report says the president complained to his aides about those barriers to what he wanted to do by saying quote I don’t have a lawyer meaning that he wanted the Attorney General to function as his own lawyer quote the president then brought up attorneys General Robert Kennedy and Eric Holder and said that they had protected their presidents the
president also pushed back on Justice Department cotton on the Justice Department contacts policy and said words to the effect of you’re telling me that Bobby and Jack didn’t talk about investigations or Obama didn’t tell Eric Holder who to investigate Steve Bannon recalled that the president was as mad as Bannon had ever seen him and that he screamed about how weak Jeff sessions was quote sessions recalled that the president pulled him aside to speak to him alone and suggested that sessions should Unruh cues from the Russia investigation the president contrasted sessions with attorneys General Holder and Kennedy who he said had developed a strategy to help their presidents where sessions had not quote according to notes written by sessions as chief of staff Jody hunt the president said quote the Attorney General is supposed to be the most important appointment Kennedy appointed his brother Obama appointed Holder I appointed you and you refused yourself you left me on an island I can’t do anything I mean in a nutshell this is what the entire obstruction section of Muller’s report boils down to right in volume 1 we get the plot about Russia attacking our election to help Trump win we get the evidence that the Trump campaign welcome to Russia has helped in that election the FBI opening an investigation into the Russia attack including the question of whether there was any coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign then in volume 2 it’s the other plot it’s the plot of Trump as president right once Trump became president him doing everything he could to try to stymie the investigation into what Russia did and the involvement is of his campaign in it including repeatedly trying to get his attorney general not to just stop the investigation but to redirect Justice Department attentions away from Trump and toward Trump’s political enemies I mean the president’s campaign chairman was literally perp-walked to the start of his next trial on the day of the first democratic debate the president’s deputy campaign chair and his national security adviser are currently convicted and awaiting federal sentencing his longtime personal lawyer is in prison already for among other things crimes that prosecutors say the president directed him to commit and it is a fascinating thing in itself that the various
Democratic candidates are not making that a central part of their competition for the Democratic nomination to run against him but whether or not they’re making an issue an issue the president is running on this stuff the president is making this an issue in his campaign not just because of the fact that he’s the subject of all of this scandal and controversy he’s trying to run specifically on what’s happened in the wake of the Russia scandal by trying to turn it inside-out to try to turn it to his own advantage I mean the the loudest complaint of the pro-trump conservative media machine now and for the past two years Donald Trump’s loudest complaints since becoming president a complaint he continues to lodge on Twitter most days even now is that the Russia investigation wasn’t real and the Russia investigation was a coup against him and the real Russia scandal isn’t being investigated by which he means specifically that he didn’t have the kind of attorney general who would investigate the people he wanted investigated he didn’t have an attorney general who would turn the power of the Justice Department against his political enemies and of course against the people who investigated Donald Trump and what it was that Russia did to help him he didn’t have that with Jeff Sessions as Attorney General but now the president says he does happen he does have that and that’s what he wanted all along which is what he was promising those Brayan crowds since the campaign I would say if I had one do-over it would be I would not have appointed Jeff Sessions to be Attorney General that would be my one that in your mind yeah that was the the big bill Barger Roy Cohn he should have never I think he’s a very talented version I’m a mother you’ve always said I was my Roy column is that your Roy Co no bar is a very equally tough he’s a fine man he’s a fine man the job he’s done is incredible he loves the Department of Justice he saw what was happening he has done a spectacular job now he’s in the process of doing something and I stay away from it I really I stay away from it but I think he feels that’s what’s happened in this country was a very bad thing and very bad for a country bill Barr he saw what was happening in the Justice Department he feels it was a very bad thing for our country and now he’s in the process of doing something about it what was the thing happening in the Justice Department that was so bad for our country I mean if Trump’s two qualifications for a good Attorney General are one protect the
president and to go after the president’s enemies well certainly we have seen Attorney General Bill Barre do a bang-up job on number one right absolving the president of obstruction of justice immediately upon receiving the special counsels report which absolutely did not absolve the president of obstruction of justice keeping that actual report under wraps for weeks while he publicly described its contents in a way that did not reflect its real content for weeks he selectively quoted from it to paint a picture of it as an exoneration of the president which is not what it was so part one protecting the president bang-up job bill Barlow has also been getting to work on part two launching the kinds of investigations that Trump has wanted for so long the kind that are promised on the idea that maybe the investigators of Russia’s interference in our election those investigators are the real bad guys because why should that have ever been looked into in the first place news just broke today that you have a special team looking into why the FBI open an investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 elections I wonder if you couldn’t share with this committee who’s on that team why you felt a need to form that kind of a team and what you intend to be the scope of their investigation yeah I as I said in my confirmation hearing I am gonna be reviewing both the genesis and the conduct of intelligence activities directed again at the the Trump campaign during 2016 I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal it’s a big deal so you’re not you’re not suggesting though that spine occurred I don’t well I guess you could I think there was a spying did occur yes I think spying did occur Oh finally finally an attorney general who’s giving Donald Trump some material he can work with you could feel the Glee and the president’s Twitter feed in the days and weeks following that testimony from William Barr you know all caps they spied on my campaign my campaign from was conclusively spied on nothing like this has ever happened in American politics treason treason exclamation point month after finally allowing a
redacted version of the mullah report to become public Trump’s newly installed Attorney General Bill Barr assigned the US Attorney in Connecticut man named John Durham to in fact investigate the origins of the Russia investigation to investigate the investigation Barre began giving soft-focus casual in front of a roaring fireplace interviews describing his concerns that people in law enforcement intelligence might have been out to get the Trump campaign and that’s the only reason anybody looked into what Russia was doing and then President Trump announced that he was handing Bill Barr the authority to declassify any information he wants to about the origins of the Russia investigation he can go through all of the intelligence community’s files and he can release anything he wants which I’m sure will be totally fine because it’s not like bill bars known for selectively releasing information from investigations to make President Trump look good and as the contours of bars investigation have started to come into focus over the past month it looks like he is training his sights on the central underlying premise of the entire Russia scandal and the entire Muller investigation that Russia and Putin attacked the 2016 election to help Trump win the Oval Office and that the the reason that needs to be investigated is because you know the FBI and the intelligence community recognizing that and investigating that while it was happening was somehow the wrong thing to do they should have just let that go from the New York Times quote mr.
Barr has been interested in how the CIA drew its conclusions about Russia’s election sabotage particularly the judgment that mr. Putin ordered that operatives help mr. Trump by discrediting his opponent Hillary Clinton according to current and former American officials quote mr. Barr wants to know more about the CIA sources who helped inform its understanding of the details of the Russian interference campaign and this headline for The Wall Street Journal quote William VAR looking into u.s. finding that Russia wanted Trump to win intelligence officials express concern that Attorney General will challenge 2017 assessment quote mister bars review of US intelligence gathering we’ll look in particular at whether there were disagreements among intelligence analysts who produce the findings the review is also likely to look into whether the findings were motivated by political opposition to mr. Trump quote US intelligence officials have privately expressed concern that the
Justice Department plans to read team or challenge the finding of Russian interference on Trump’s behalf from CBS News quote a mix of concern confusion and defiance has spread through elements of the intelligence community in particular current and former intelligence officials are questioning the purpose and propriety of scrutinizing the analytical judgments that led a group of agencies to conclude that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign to boost candidate Trump’s electability according to former CIA deputy director Michael Morell quote any analyst asked to submit to an interview with Durham’s investigators will want to have their own personal attorney at their side imagine that needing an attorney to explain an analytic judgment conducted while you are working for US intelligence agency well this will be watched closely inside the intelligence community and the prospect that Justice Department prosecutors may ask questions about how an analyst came to a conclusion could well lead analysts to damar so in other words if you’re a US intelligence analyst and you are looking at evidence of foreign interference in an American election foreign interference in American democracy and your analysis is bringing you to the conclusion that a foreign power is trying to insert a certain candidate into the White House to serve the purposes of that foreign power are you sure you want to put that down in writing because that candidate might become president and send the Justice Department to interrogate you might send Justice Department prosecutors after you because the president doesn’t like the way your intelligence analysis made him look or more immediately if you’re an intelligence analyst and you find yourself coming to the conclusion that a foreign power is currently helping the sitting president maybe you ought to think twice about what you’re gonna do with that conclusion to where you might put that conclusion who you might tell about it what you might say about it or do you instead just let it ride right nice little intelligence community you got there shame if anything were to happen to it so yes president Trump now says he finally has the Attorney General he always wanted just as the 2020 campaign gets fully underway lock her up lock her up and as Muller prepares to testify about
his investigation for the first time right between the two Democratic debates but there’s one other element at play here one other factor that Trump in his Attorney General don’t control and that is that people who were in some of this country’s key intelligence and key law enforcement positions during the 2016 campaign when the investigation was launched into the Russian attack on the election and the Trump campaigns possible complicity in it those human beings are alive and well and capable despite all the threats and intimidation they are capable of speaking out publicly about what they in fact saw and what they did and what they analyzed as its importance why that investigation was both in both important and proper why that investigation in other words still needs to be protected many of those people have been driven out of their jobs publicly attacked by the President and his supporters and particularly by conservative media put under investigation themselves one of those top officials who oversaw the counterintelligence investigation into Russia and the Trump campaign has only recently begun telling his story our interview with him is just ahead and stay with us hey there I’m Chris Hayes from MSNBC thanks for watching MSNBC on YouTube if you want to keep up to date with the videos we’re putting out you can click subscribe just below me or click over on this list to see lots of other great videos
earthquake has hit California just one day after another earthquake which is now being described as a four shot and dozens of aftershocks the latest earthquake reportedly originated in the same desert area of California between Los Angeles and Las Vegas and could be felt as far away as as Las Vegas it was just yesterday that a rolling magnitude earthquake hit which was the most powerful quake in that region in two decades you can see chandeliers swaying this is in Los Angeles the epicenter was in a place called Ridge crust it was felt again as far away as Las Vegas and depending on who you talk to and where they were they experienced things very very differently in rich crust which is the epicenter it’s described as a violent shaking and people are describing being terrified people in tears there was a fireball which had been a home everybody did get out safely that was confirmed by NBC News’s Molly hunter and in places like Las Vegas where and in Los Angeles where you’re seeing right now it’s being described more as like a sea sickness like a motion sickness a feeling of vertigo and people didn’t feel necessarily panicked there but it was has definitely been a series of episodes one of the people that we want to talk to is our own NBC news anchor Lester Holt who is on the phone he was in Santa Monica California in a movie theater which I can’t imagine being in a more scary place when something like that hit Lester hello thank you for being with with us and and just take us through it please well you know we’ve all been highly sensitized since the quake yesterday that and you know the expectation that there might be further aftershocks we would feel here in the Los Angeles area that was on my mind but if the theater is sitting there and suddenly it began and there was no you know trying to second-guess what it might be immediately I understood it was the earthquake my wife and I look at each other earthquake and I don’t know she said I said there’s some things that were fine if we were at that moment and then it seemed to intensify and that’s the point I think that it became more concerning and we and the mother folks got up made our way to an exit went several flight and answered on the street level we didn’t quite know what to expect what we got out there the intensity of it made me think that we might encounter damage there was a no panic one woman however was you know sobbing and any be consoled by her husband as they made their way out of the theater and now we’re all going to gathered around television was watching watching the coverage here the news conferences and try to get a handle on this thing as to as to whether it’s over I think what’s alarming for a lot of people in Los Angeles is what if what if that epicenter was closer to LA this quake is bigger than the deadly Northridge quake here back in the 90s it’s a larger magnitude also than the Loma Prieta quake the World Series quake in the San Francisco Bay Area back in the 80s so a great deal of concern as to what would happen if an epicenter of a quake of that magnitude were to be closer to Los Angeles you can certainly understand that the conversation about are we prepared is ramping up after this weekend Lester Holt thank you so much and I’m so glad that you are safe let’s go to Molly hunter with NBC News who is in Ridgecrest which is the epicenter of this whole a series of episodes and Molly from what you’ve describing it been describing it is a much different situation where you are which is the epicenter as compared to people who are in LA and Las Vegas and even just a few miles away from where you are that’s exactly right I’ve never experienced anything like this I also was born and raised in California and I was in Los Angeles for that on Thursday I felt the this morning around a.m.
And nothing compared to that so our hotel is actually just over here I’m just gonna have quart pan over just so you can see the complete darkness we’re totally out of power but we were sound asleep in our hotels and I can’t describe to you waking up to that kind of violent shaking I looked up and the room literally felt like it was on hinges just going back and forth the entire curtains came down and it was incredibly terrifying I’m not sure I’ve experienced something like that and we immediately got out of bed look I was on the first floor our care guy in our sound guy court and Brian were up on the third floor Brian was knocked out of bed my producer angie was on the second floor all of her things were also knocked completely off the desk furniture messed around we all ran out of the hotel and then we went over to see that house fire which you just described that fireball we do know that everyone got out safely but we are at the hospital right now there’s an emergency command center lots of emergency vehicles up here and as far as at least the emergency services are concerned everything is working as planned and as prepared they’re incredibly ready for this and we’re just gonna have to wait and see what the fall it is after that they have you we’ve all been seeing pictures of these emergency crews that you have described have you witnessed them going searching structures and and taking a look at the roads I know it’s dark so I can’t imagine how they’re even accomplishing all of this that they need to do but have you seen that we saw it earlier today because after the five point for everyone who’s pretty freaked out and officials said they were gonna have to go out and actually look at some of these bigger buildings to see if there was foundation damage or structural damage that wasn’t apparent to the naked eye look some of these smaller structures like mobile homes we can see if they’re off its foundation but the worry is that something like this the hospital that there’s internal foundation damage and so they had actually evacuated patients on Thursday out of an abundance of caution because they were nervous there might be some structural damage but look at this hour we haven’t seen any necessarily emergency vehicles going toward a door it’s too dark and too early right very long hard job ahead of the Mullin hunter thank you so much we will have continuing coverage of this earthquake on MSNBC and this NBC NBC station I am Melissa ray Berger NBC News New York hey NBC News viewers thanks for checking out our YouTube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down here and click on any of the videos over here to watch the latest interviews show highlights and digital exclusives thanks for watching
A lot of questions as to how this plane carrying 11 people could have crashed before even clearing this airfield witnesses say the plane was taking off this way when somehow it turned upside down crashing right into the ground here as NTSB investigators now gather to start combing through the debris on the North Shore of Oahu the deadliest civilian plane crash in Hawaii in nearly 30 years and now staggering heartache Galen Rick Severson were two of the first to rush to the crash site when a skydiving plane plummeted to the ground just after takeoff Friday I’d never forget the sound of the crash as fast as we could but there’s nothing the impact and fire so powerful most of the aircraft was incinerated and some family members of the victims watched helplessly nearby among those who perished Casey Williamson a videographer who moved to Honolulu to pursue a life of skydiving instructor Larry Lemaster he leaves behind a young son and 36 year-old Daniel Herndon also an instructor with more than 4,000 jumps family members saying they died doing what they loved now as the NTSB begins its investigation there are new questions about whether this plane was fit to fly the NTSB planning to review this disturbing video coming to light appearing to show the same plane nearly crashing during another skydiving jump in 2016 the video posted to YouTube revealing panic inside the aircraft as it started to spin uncontrollably over California then a scramble to jump out while pieces of a wing fell out of the sky the pilot landing safely but the plane heavily damaged the FAA blaming pilot error for failure to maintain airspeed well look at the repairs that were made on the aircraft and inspections to make sure that it was air worthy before it was able to begin operations again apart from those repairs the NTSB says are going to be looking into other factors like actions of the pilot weather conditions as well as the plane’s weight before it took off hey NBC News fans thanks for checking out our youtube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down here and click on any of the videos over here to watch the latest interviews show highlights and digital exclusives thanks for watching